About Me

My name is Matt.  I am the pastor of a small church in the Salt Lake Valley of Utah.  My wife and four kids are the most precious earthly blessings God has given me.  It is my joy and delight to be able to preach and teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but my greatest delight is the satisfaction I have in God alone (although He is still working in me on that one).  Outside of ministry, I enjoy reading biographies, rock climbing, hiking, riding motorcycles, and spending time with my family.

The name Christian Joe is a self-description of who I am.  I am just and “average joe” who seeks to honor and exalt Jesus Christ as His follower-His Christian. My blog is mostly my personal thoughts as well as updates concerning my family. Praise be to God for his untold blessings and gifts to his saints!

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  1. Hi, what a coincidence!
    My name is Christian Joe, my real name!
    And I never had found it anywhere. But, by the first time I saw here.
    So that’s it, just to let a comment

    November 18, 2008
  2. Bob Leitzel said:

    Hi Matt, I came across your recent youtobue posting of your Bible study on Romans 9. I too am an average-Joe (and I have 3 sons and a daughter so if i got your family right we have that in common too!) Are you open to having a discussion about a different take on Romans 9? I’m not talking about the standard individual vs. nations discussion you’ve read or had probably countless times. No, I’m speaking of something far different that I’m sure you haven’t come across before. I believe the most important part of context has been missed in this chapter, temporality. And in hindsight you may find it remarkable that it has been missed for so long. Paul’s use of “At the appointed time” and “the younger will serve the elder” in verses 9 and 12, which have gone overlooked or at least sidelined by most major exegeses of this chapter for centuries, will actually become the focal point of Paul’s pivot to overcoming this new objection of temporality.

    One of the biggest objections to Paul’s theology coming from unbelieving Jews would be that they were incredulous that their God’s promises would seemingly be changing at this late date. Viewing Romans 9 with this temporality context in mind completely flips the entire meaning of the chapter, makes it more harmonious with chapters 10 and 11 (and the rest of his letters) and undermines the basis for Calvinism. God is still sovereign, but instead of him choosing from before time to not save some (I know you don’t affirm double predestination, or hyper-Calvinism but we can have that conversation too) Paul is teaching something the Jewish unbelievers were incredulous to, that God chose ALL mankind to be in his family. Not just the Jews. If you have the desire to have the conversation, one of the things I’d like to posit is that Paul is actually reversing the identity roles when he quotes or references the OT throughout chapter 9. Just as he did in Galatians 4, which you just went through. Let me know if you have time to talk, thanks!

    May 31, 2019

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